I respect Jimmy Dore the way I have come to respect a lot of the old lefties who stuck with who they were. I don't always agree with his takes. Side note, if you find yourself agreeing with everything someone says, doublecheck to make sure you are not suffering from NPC Syndrome. Dore and other old lefties like Taibbi and Greenwald have several traits that separate them from the "resistance" liberals. First, they have real principles they believe in. Shocking, but it provides a consistency required to respect someone's opinion. Second, they are skeptical of the things they hear. Who knew doing your own research and not towing the official line might make you more trustworthy than the Robert Reich's of the world? Finally, they do not give a crap about any "peer pressure". They are pretty much the same people they have always been.
What a foolish statement. If we would’ve listened to a Ralph meter backing well-known charted Waters with more than likely a functioning society. Monday morning quarterback tells us that Ralph was right. About everything.
"Does the evidence prove conclusively that Jimmy Dore received money in order for specific pay-to-play coverage of specific ideas?"
Jimmy himself confirms the first $5000 payment from Peter Allard at 06:15 in his video titled "Tribute To Truth & Justice Advocate Peter Allard". The screenshot of an email from Allard to Jimmy's wife linking to a video titled "No Climate Emergency say 500 scientists to UN" answers the second part of your question.
"Is there any evidence that Jimmy Dore’s content changed in such a manner as to point to such a moment in time to be influenced by the money?"
The video titled "Climate Change Way Worse Than We Thought" from 5 years ago versus "NASA Study Shows Climate Change Is Actually GREENING The Earth!" from earlier this year is an example of Jimmy changing position on a specific issue Allard pushed for, but of course it's impossible to prove that his funding influenced Jimmy and that it wasn't just a change of heart. It's also impossible to say whether Jimmy decided to hyperfocus on Allard's other pet peeve (covid) because of money and not because he personally suffered from mild vaccine side effects.
What do you mean "no"? Isn't Jimmy's own words ("he made a $5000 donation to our show") evidence of him receiving money from Allard? Isn't the email from Allard to Jimmy's wife (among others) linking to the video titled "No Climate Emergency say 500 scientists to UN" evidence of him pushing for a specific narrative on an issue that Jimmy has clearly changed position/messaging on? Would you expect him to write "Dear Jimmy, I know you're concerned about climate change, but here's some money, now please go on your show and say the situation isn't so bad after all"? You're repeatedly saying the author doesn't have any evidence and that it's just heresy - will you at least update your piece to clarify that Jimmy himself admits taking money from Allard?
By the way, I find it strange for an outsider unaffiliated with Jimmy to state (with bold letters) "your entire article is libelous and legally actionable from Jimmy's perspective. Be thankful he isn't the type to litigate" - how do you know this about Jimmy? Did you get any response from him after reaching out?
I was doing more thinking about this. A $5,000 donation and a seemingly unconnected video don’t make a pay-for-play scheme.
To your point of litigious natures? I’m just guessing. I’m allowed to speculate. Jenn Dize is allowed to impugn with no restrictions, I’ll take my liberties.
And to your point of “Will you amend the piece”, no. I won’t. My piece wasn’t talking about Jimmy Dore getting a donation (your words) of 10% what Jenn and Jordan saw. My piece was about pay-for-play with regard to COVID vaccines as Jenn impugned Jimmy for, not for climate change. You can’t move the goalposts on her behalf.
I wish you a happy Christmas, and I hope Santa brings you debate lessons!
I respect Jimmy Dore the way I have come to respect a lot of the old lefties who stuck with who they were. I don't always agree with his takes. Side note, if you find yourself agreeing with everything someone says, doublecheck to make sure you are not suffering from NPC Syndrome. Dore and other old lefties like Taibbi and Greenwald have several traits that separate them from the "resistance" liberals. First, they have real principles they believe in. Shocking, but it provides a consistency required to respect someone's opinion. Second, they are skeptical of the things they hear. Who knew doing your own research and not towing the official line might make you more trustworthy than the Robert Reich's of the world? Finally, they do not give a crap about any "peer pressure". They are pretty much the same people they have always been.
"I will likely get $0 for writing this, and in the end the biggest gain is a very confused audience."
Preach it, brother. Let's fail at capitalism together.
Please go to the hospital immediately.
Is this ableism? Or just more Democrat “you’re the crazy one, not me” crap?
You have to have some serious narcissism disorder to go around claiming literally everyone has a mental illness except you
Congrats for making journalism look more ridiculous than it already is
You certainly are using “journalism” quite loosely.
I don’t think agitprop bullshit dissemination device actually qualifies as a journalistic endeavor.
Very helpful, thanks Hudson the Third.
Some days I am kind of like that.
Let’s just hope IV doesn’t turn out to be a colossal asshole.
I’ve been informed that Peter Allard has been dead about a year now, and is unavailable for comment per his PR team. We regret the error.
What a foolish statement. If we would’ve listened to a Ralph meter backing well-known charted Waters with more than likely a functioning society. Monday morning quarterback tells us that Ralph was right. About everything.
"Does the evidence prove conclusively that Jimmy Dore received money in order for specific pay-to-play coverage of specific ideas?"
Jimmy himself confirms the first $5000 payment from Peter Allard at 06:15 in his video titled "Tribute To Truth & Justice Advocate Peter Allard". The screenshot of an email from Allard to Jimmy's wife linking to a video titled "No Climate Emergency say 500 scientists to UN" answers the second part of your question.
"Is there any evidence that Jimmy Dore’s content changed in such a manner as to point to such a moment in time to be influenced by the money?"
The video titled "Climate Change Way Worse Than We Thought" from 5 years ago versus "NASA Study Shows Climate Change Is Actually GREENING The Earth!" from earlier this year is an example of Jimmy changing position on a specific issue Allard pushed for, but of course it's impossible to prove that his funding influenced Jimmy and that it wasn't just a change of heart. It's also impossible to say whether Jimmy decided to hyperfocus on Allard's other pet peeve (covid) because of money and not because he personally suffered from mild vaccine side effects.
So, no. Thank you for the confirmation.
What do you mean "no"? Isn't Jimmy's own words ("he made a $5000 donation to our show") evidence of him receiving money from Allard? Isn't the email from Allard to Jimmy's wife (among others) linking to the video titled "No Climate Emergency say 500 scientists to UN" evidence of him pushing for a specific narrative on an issue that Jimmy has clearly changed position/messaging on? Would you expect him to write "Dear Jimmy, I know you're concerned about climate change, but here's some money, now please go on your show and say the situation isn't so bad after all"? You're repeatedly saying the author doesn't have any evidence and that it's just heresy - will you at least update your piece to clarify that Jimmy himself admits taking money from Allard?
By the way, I find it strange for an outsider unaffiliated with Jimmy to state (with bold letters) "your entire article is libelous and legally actionable from Jimmy's perspective. Be thankful he isn't the type to litigate" - how do you know this about Jimmy? Did you get any response from him after reaching out?
No I’m saying “taking a donation” isn’t evidence of pay for play.
I was doing more thinking about this. A $5,000 donation and a seemingly unconnected video don’t make a pay-for-play scheme.
To your point of litigious natures? I’m just guessing. I’m allowed to speculate. Jenn Dize is allowed to impugn with no restrictions, I’ll take my liberties.
And to your point of “Will you amend the piece”, no. I won’t. My piece wasn’t talking about Jimmy Dore getting a donation (your words) of 10% what Jenn and Jordan saw. My piece was about pay-for-play with regard to COVID vaccines as Jenn impugned Jimmy for, not for climate change. You can’t move the goalposts on her behalf.
I wish you a happy Christmas, and I hope Santa brings you debate lessons!